#159 | The Privilege To Leave: Stepping Away From The Center Of Empire w/ Michael Sliwa

In this episode, I speak with Michael Sliwa — author, former educator, and “one of the foremost speakers on simple living.”⚐ My discussion with Michael addresses the traps of modernity — including work, consumerism, settler-colonialism, our culture’s attachment to things, and the path Michael has taken to move further away from the center of Empire in an attempt to liberate himself from false needs and excessive wants, in turn learning to live much more simply, nomadically, and communally.

In particular, what we discuss is that in spite of this worthy effort, privilege plays an enormous role in an individual’s ability to move away from the destructive nature and impact of this industrial culture, and as Michael addresses in this episode, the recognition of this fundamental aspect of living within a society forged in settler-colonial values and maintained through the socio-economic imposition to “make a living” informs this effort in more ways than can be initially understood. The false sense of security careers and material accumulation brings in a culture bereft of community and land-based consciousness is something worth addressing and overcoming in spite of this, especially in the face of widespread ecological disintegration and abrupt climate disruption — a result of this imposition to “make a living” regardless of the long-term consequences. Michael and I get at the worthiness of the effort to liberate oneself of false needs and wants, and what interesting paths await those that make the leap toward personal responsibility and deep recognition of the role privilege plays in the maintaining of the illusion of stability and prosperity in this society, in light of the devastating impact this logic has had on the living systems of this planet — in which we are inextricably tied to. Michael’s insight is a treasure, and we discuss these subjects and more in this episode.

Michael Sliwa is the author of 'Chasing A Different Carrot: A Manifesto For The Predicament Of Privilege’ and is one of the foremost speakers on simple living. He and his wife Karen are former educators who left behind their careers and most of their worldly possessions in order to pursue a life of genuine connectivity. For years Michael and Karen have been traveling, working and speaking about what it means to live a life of simplicity. They have built a skill set that has allowed them to continue along a path where stress and chaos are left behind and efficiency and durability take their place. Michael has shared their story through keynotes, workshops, assemblies, and TEDx Talks along the way. Today Michael is the Co-Founder and Development Specialist for one of the most dynamic speaking agencies in the country, TRUality, and is the former co-host of Nature Bats Last on the Progressive Radio Network.⚐

⚐ Source: http://bit.ly/2ANMhEO

Episode Notes:

- Learn more about Michael’s work at his website: https://michaelsliwa.wordpress.com

- Watch Michael’s video series ‘Another Way’ here: http://bit.ly/MSanotherway

- Learn more about and purchase Michael’s book ‘Chasing A Different Carrot: A Manifesto For The Predicament Of Privilege’ here: https://amzn.to/2PejD4Y

- Follow Michael on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/michael.j.sliwa

- Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/CarrotChasing

- The songs featured in this episode are “Right On,” “African New Wave,” and “The Doldrums” by Paul White from the album Rapping With Paul White.

#158 | Super Uncle Sam Very American: Crafting Comedy In Our Inverted Moral Universe w/ Lee Camp

In this episode, I speak with Lee Camp — stand up comedian, political commentator, and the head writer and host of the national TV show Redacted Tonight on RT America. We discuss his recently released comedy special ‘Super Patriotic Very Uncle Sam Comedy Special Not Allowed On American TV’ — his first comedy special in over four years. We discuss such topics as the value of voting under a corporate oligarchy, our “inverted moral universe,” and the far-reaching implications of the recently revealed sealed indictment against WikiLeaks editor Julian Assange by the United States Justice Department under the Trump Administration — in particular the threat this case poses for the freedom of press under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

In Lee’s newest comedy special, no stone is left unturned. Covering a wide, but ultimately connected, series of subjects, Lee digs deeply into our contemporary political, environmental, and cultural predicament, uncovering the root of our “inverted moral universe” with the skill of a veteran comedian and political commentator. In this discussion, we get into Lee’s process in crafting comedy, his ability to deliver sobering truths about the state of things in 2018 America, all while empowering his audience to recognize the collective power we have in the face of the bleak reality we find ourselves in. Considering how much is at stake, what role can comedy play in disseminating truths (cutting through the bullshit narratives promulgated by the corporate press) while empowering individual and collective action in the face of seemingly hopeless conditions? We discuss this and more in this episode.

Lee Camp is the head writer and host of the national TV show ‘Redacted Tonight with Lee Camp’ on RT America. He’s a former contributor to The Onion, former staff humor writer for the Huffington Post, and his web series ‘Moment of Clarity’ has been viewed by millions. He’s toured the country and the world with his fierce brand of standup comedy, and George Carlin’s daughter Kelly said he’s one of the few comics keeping her father’s torch lit. Bill Hicks’s brother Steve said Lee is one of only a handful with Bill’s “message and passion.”✧

✧Source: https://leecamp.com/about

Episode Notes:

- Watch Lee’s new comedy special ‘Super Patriotic Very Uncle Sam Comedy Special Not Allowed On American TV’ and use the code “UNCLE SAM” to get a discount: https://www.leecampcomedyspecial.com

- Learn more about Lee and his work at his website: https://leecamp.com

- Watch ‘Redacted Tonight’ on RT and on the YouTube channel: http://bit.ly/RedTonight

- ‘Redacted Tonight’ goes on tour. Learn more here: https://leecamp.com/schedule

- Follow Lee on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/LeeCampComedian

- Follow Lee on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LeeCamp

- The songs featured in this episode are “1 Night” and “Zoro” by Lord Raja from the Zoro EP.

#157 | Good Grief: Building Individual Resilience w/ Aimee Lewis-Reau & LaUra Schmidt

In this episode, I speak with Aimee Lewis-Reau and LaUra Schmidt, co-founders of the Good Grief Network, an organization that “cultivates individual resilience to metabolize collective grief.”

In this conversation with Aimee and LaUra, we discuss what it means to build psychosocial resilience in our time of accelerating climate change and ecological stress and despair. Presented in ten steps, the program cultivated by LaUra and Aimee is meant to be presented and worked with in a group setting. LaUra and Aimee expound on each of these steps in this discussion:

1) Accept the problem and its severity.


2) Acknowledge that I am part of the problem as well as the solution.


3) Practice sitting with uncertainty.


4) Confront my own mortality and the mortality of all.


5) Feel my feelings.


6) Do inner work.


7) Take breaks and rest as needed.


8) Develop awareness of brain patterns and perception.


9) Show up.


10) Reinvest into problem-solving efforts.


The dominant culture often discourages us from fully feeling the heavy and difficult emotions that come with recognizing our mortality, in particular when that realization is placed within the context of a rapidly unraveling biosphere -- one in which we fully depend on, not only for our physical wellbeing, but for our spiritual, psychological, and emotional wellbeing as well. Aimee and LaUra have done a tremendous service in providing a means to grapple with these emotions, build psychosocial resilience, and allow us to face our predicament with clarity, focus, power, and love.

Aimee Lewis-Reau was born and raised in southeast Michigan, and is a certified Scholè Yoga Instructor and RYT 200, and received her Bachelor’s degree in English, Poetry, and Religion from Central Michigan University before obtaining her MFA in Creative Nonfiction from Georgia College & State University. She DJs under the name eXis10shAL and takes delight in making crowds dance, because Alice Walker said it best: “Hard times require furious dancing.”✧

LaUra Schmidt hails from Michigan and is a graduate of Central Michigan University with a BS in Environmental Studies, Biology, and Religious Studies. She earned her MS in Environmental Humanities from the University of Utah. She’s a Climate Reality Leadership Corps member and finds inspiration in natural landscapes and honest, open-hearted dialogue.✧

✧Source: http://bit.ly/GoodGabout

Episode Notes:

- Learn more about the Good Grief Network: http://www.goodgriefgroup.org

- Learn more about the “10 Steps to Psychosocial Resilience” here: http://bit.ly/2BtJdPW

- Listen and subscribe to Aimee and LaUra’s podcast ‘WHY?!?’ on iTunes: https://apple.co/2DWqU8g

- Support the Good Grief Network on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/GoodGriefNetwork

- The songs featured in this episode are “Suspirium” and “Has Ended” by Thom Yorke from the album Suspiria (Music for the Luca Guadagnino Film).

#156 | Not Him: The Farce Of Liberal Democracy & Indigenous Rights In Brazil w/ Mirna Wabi-Sabi

In this episode, I speak with Mirna Wabi-Sabi — writer and Co-Editor of Gods & Radicals Press. We discuss the recent presidential election in her home country of Brazil and her recent piece on the subject; voting and the farce of liberal democracy; the destruction of indigenous and quilombist peoples’ lands, culture, and heritage and the ecocide currently underway in the rainforests of Brazil; the ongoing efforts by leftist and indigenous groups to generate dialogue and united action in the face of rising far right populist organizing and violence.

Mirna and I address her recent piece in Gods & Radicals ‘‘A Luta Continua’: The Struggle Continues,’ in which she addresses the recent presidential election in Brazil, resulting in the election of far right neofascist candidate Jair Bolsonaro (referred to as “J.B.” or “the dude” in this episode). As an anti-capitalist and an anarchist, Mirna elaborates on her views about voting as expressed in her piece: “People are so stressed that even anarchists are talking about voting and doing the ‘lesser-evil’ thing. But what will voting actually do?”⚑ We get into what participating in the voting process would actually accomplish, as well as the social/economic/political realities of the situation in Brazil in spite of which candidate is elected. Mirna also elaborates on the struggle of the indigenous and quilombist peoples to maintain and gain real autonomy and protect the wholeness and health of the rainforests of Brazil, especially in the face of J.B. promises that “there won’t be a square centimeter demarcated as an indigenous reserve” and “where there is indigenous land, there is wealth underneath it.”☍ Even in the face of this threat, which is to be taken very seriously, the health of the Amazon is already under massive threat and vast destruction due to both legal and illegal mining, logging, fossil fuel extraction, and agricultural projects.

This conversation covers a wide variety of subjects, and addresses the sense of anxiety present in Brazilian society as a result of this election, particularly within minority groups most affected by this election. Mirna was very open about her worries and fears about the state of affairs in her home country, and what these trends mean for the future of not only the people and ecology of Brazil, but also the global implications of these developments as well. I thank her for her willingness to have this discussion with me.

Mirna Wabi-Sabi is an anti-capitalist writer and organizer in Brazil, and is the Co-Editor of Gods & Radicals Press — “a site of beautiful resistance” — where writes about decoloniality, feminism, and anti-capitalism.

⚑ Source: http://bit.ly/2qW2a7X

☍ Source: https://nyti.ms/2K6cnHz

Episode Notes:

- Read Mirna’s writing at Gods & Radicals Press: http://bit.ly/GRmirna

- Follow Mirna on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MirnaWabiSabi

- Read more excellent pieces from Gods & Radicals Press: https://godsandradicals.org

- The documentary Mirna mentions is ‘Master Moa of Katendê - The First Victim’ by Carlos Pronzato. The documentary now has English subtitles: https://youtu.be/-iV7RQ_oc5U

- The songs featured in this episode are “I’m Overflow” and “Feels Like A Wheel” by Death Grips from the album Government Plates.

#155 | An American Religion: Pioneer Prophets & The Colonization Of The West w/ John G. Turner

In this episode, I speak with author and historian of American Religion John G. Turner. We discuss the origins and development of the uniquely American religion The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (or as it is more colloquially referred: the “Mormon Church”), explored in John’s biography of the Church’s influential second president in ‘Brigham Young: Pioneer Prophet’ and in his more recent book ‘The Mormon Jesus: A Biography’ which covers the Church’s theological underpinnings and place within the tapestry of American Christianity.

As someone that grew up as a member of the LDS Church (and having left the Church officially years ago), my fascination with the roots of this religion continues to the present day. I can’t shake my interest in examining the roots of religion in the broader sense, and while I’ve explored various topics that point to my interest in this subject, I had not yet given much time yet in discussing the role the LDS Church has played in such topics as: the colonization of the West; the cultural and historical context that gave rise to the cultural and political prominence of the Church in American society; American Exceptionalism and the role it’s played in the development of the theological underpinnings of Mormon faith and cosmology; the antagonistic relationship the Church leadership had with the United States government, primarily in the 19th century under Brigham Young; what recent controversies surrounding the Church and its leadership mean for the future of the organization and its members.

This is where John’s work comes in. His sober and detailed examination of the roots of the LDS Church sheds a light on the personalities of the individuals (Brigham Young and Joseph Smith) that made the most crucial and influential decisions in the history of not only the Church, but also in the westward expansion of the American Project (e.g. Manifest Destiny), as well as the colonization of the North American continent more generally. By understanding the roots of this religion, we can further understand the history of the United States and its expansionist program, as well as the role the Church played in that project. We get into these subjects and more in this episode.

John G. Turner is professor of American Religion at George Mason University, with a special interest in Mormonism, Evangelism, and the history of Colonial New England. John is the author of ‘Bill Bright and Campus Crusade for Christ: The Renewal of Evangelicalism in Postwar America,’ ‘Brigham Young: Pioneer Prophet,’ and ‘The Mormon Jesus: A Biography.’ John is currently next project is a history of Plymouth Colony, scheduled for publication in 2020 (the 400th anniversary of the Mayflower).

Episode Notes:

- Learn more about John and his work at his website: https://johngturner.com

- Purchase ‘Brigham Young: Pioneer Prophet’ here: http://bit.ly/BrighamYBio

- Purchase ‘The Mormon Jesus: A Biography’ here: http://bit.ly/MormonJ

- The song featured in this episode is “Battle Hymn of the Republic” by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir. Source: https://youtu.be/QSiVjlknuSw

#154 | Another End Of The World Is Possible w/ Dahr Jamail & Dr. Bones

This two-part live podcast features interviews with awarding-winning environmental journalist Dahr Jamail and gonzo journalist, conjurer, and political theorist Dr. Bones. This event was live-streamed and recorded in front of a live audience on October 28th, 2018 at the abandoned Idaho Youth Ranch building on Main Ave in Twin Falls, Idaho. Along with live interviews, this event also featured a question and answer session after each respective interview for those participating in-person and for those participating through the live-stream of the event.


Part One

In this discussion with award-winning environmental journalist Dahr Jamail, we begin by addressing the recent report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). I ask Dahr unpack the data and projections regarding anthropogenic climate change presented in the report, with Dahr noting that the report excludes much of the more recent and varied data regarding the non-linear, exponential change inherent in abrupt climate disruption as a result of human industrial activity over the past several centuries. The direct implication inherent in the information Dahr presents in his work regarding the global climate crisis points to the very likely inability for the human species to adapt to the rapid change relating to abrupt climate disruption, in great part due to the growing inability to grow food at scale, wide-spread conflict and resource depletion, catastrophic weather change and dramatic sea-level rise inundating coastal cities, as well as other wide-spread changes relating to abrupt climate disruption.

How can we begin to grapple with implications of this information? In the face of the likely near-term extinction of the human species, what meaningful actions can we engage in this time we find ourselves in? We discuss this and more in the episode.

Dahr Jamail is an award-winning journalist who regularly reports on climate disruption and environmental issues for the online publication Truthout. Prior to his work reporting on environmental issues, Dahr was one of only a few unembedded journalists to report extensively from Iraq during the US led invasion in 2003. Dahr is the author of multiple books, including the upcoming book ‘The End Of Ice: Bearing Witness and Finding Meaning in the Path of Climate Disruption,’ set for release January 2019.

Episode Notes:

- Learn more about Dahr and his upcoming book ‘The End of Ice’ at his website: http://www.dahrjamail.net

- Dahr writes regularly for Truthout: http://bit.ly/DJtruthout

Part Two

In this discussion with gonzo journalist, conjurer, and political theorist Dr. Bones, we begin by discussing right-wing media personality Alex Jones and his mention of Dr. Bones and ‘The Guillotine’ podcast on InfoWars, in which Jones quotes a tweet sent out by Bones regarding militant leftist organizing in the face of rising far right violence within the United States. We discuss the recent uptick of far right violence over the past several weeks, including the assault of antifascist protesters by the Proud Boys, a far right gang founded by Gavin McInnis, following an event featuring a talk by McInnis at the Metropolitan Republican Club in New Yorks City. We also touch on other examples of right-wing violence, including the string of pipe bombs sent by the “MAGAbomber,” the recent mass shooting at a synagogue in Pittsburgh, as well as the recent election of far right political candidate Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil.

Continuing with the theme of this event, we fit the global rise of far right violence within the larger ecological crisis currently underway on our planet. What role can mutual aid and militant organizing play in adapting to the rapidly disintegrating life systems of the planet, in particular as societies around the globe move toward more regressive, oppressive, and violent political ideologies and organizations in the face of these massive changes currently underway? We get into this subject, and more, in this episode.

Dr. Bones is a gonzo journalist, political theorist, and conjurer who believes “true individuality can only flourish when the means of existence are shared by all.” A Florida native and Hoodoo practitioner, he summons pure vitriol, straight narrative, and sorcerous wisdom into a potent blend of poltergasmic politics and gonzo journalism. Bones is the author of ‘Curse Your Boss, Hex the State, Take Back the World,’ the co-host of the The Guillotine podcast, and regularly writes for Gods & Radicals Press — a site of beautiful resistance.

Episode Notes:

- Learn more about Dr. Bones and his work at his website: https://theconjurehouse.com

- Dr. Bones writes regularly for Gods & Radicals Press: https://godsandradicals.org

- Dr. Bones is the co-host of The Guillotine podcast. Listen and subscribe: https://theguillotinepodcast.libsyn.com


This event was recorded and co-organized by Jordan Thornquest and Chase Chandler. Special thanks to video blogger Arnel Culum for covering the event — featured in the video ‘Another Earth Is Coming’: https://youtu.be/taMuARpHYrc

#153 | Fighting Solves Everything: The Rise Of International Far Right Violence w/ Spencer Sunshine

In this episode, I speak with researcher, journalist, activist, and political consultant regarding Far Right movements Spencer Sunshine. The last time I spoke with Spencer Sunshine was a year ago, soon after the "Unite The Right" rally in Charlottesville, North Carolina in August 2017, in which we discussed the fallout of that event. In this conversation, we catch up on the development of the Far Right over the past year.

We start this discussion with an examination of the recent controversy surrounding Gavin McInnis, founder of the Proud Boys, and his invitation to speak at the Metropolitan Republican Club in New York City, in which a group of Proud Boys openly attacked protesters after the event. We discuss the lack of police interference in the beatings, and the overall trend in policing and law enforcement's attitude toward Far Right movements in the US, and internationally as well, and what this means regarding the development and expansion on these movements. We also discuss the differences and similarities between what has been defined as the “Alt-Right” and the “Alt-Lite,” and what these two camps of Far Right ideology have accomplished in the past year in the expansion and normalization of Far Right rhetoric and violence. We also discuss other strains of Far Right organization and ideology, including Joey Gibson and Patriot Prayer, as well the Left's altogether lack of preparedness in addressing the looming threat posed by these groups. 

Spencer Sunshine holds a PhD in Sociology and has been an activist for over 25 years. Currently, he is an associate fellow at Political Research Associates, a progressive think tank that monitors right-wing organizing. He was present at the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge outside of Burns, Oregon in January 2016, and at the demonstration against the fascist-led “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia in August 2017. Sunshine is the lead author of 'Up in Arms: A Guide to Oregon’s Patriot Movement.' He is currently working on a new book, ‘Unorthodox Fascism: The New Right, Third Positionism, and the Specter of Multiracial Fascism in the United States,’ which will appear on Routledge’s Studies in Fascism and the Far Right.☍

☍Source: http://bit.ly/SunshineBio

Episode Notes:

- Learn more about Spencer’s work at his website: https://spencersunshine.com

- Follow Spencer on Twitter: https://twitter.com/transform6789

- Read Spencer’s most recent piece in Truthout ‘Anti-Immigrant Rampage in Germany Shows Expansion of Right-Wing Violence’: http://bit.ly/2AmnBnT

- Read Shane Burley’s piece ‘The Proud Boys Have Revived Far-Right Gang Terror With GOP Support’ in Truthout: http://bit.ly/2R5qqPO

- Watch Vic Berger’s video highlighting the violent rhetoric of Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnis in ‘Gavin McInnes In His Own Words: Proud Boys Engage In Violence For Fun’: https://youtu.be/_J_1Wqzqt4I

- The songs featured in this episode are “I’m Scum” and “Never Fight A Man With A Perm” by IDLES from the album Joy As An Act Of Resistance.

#152 | Folly Of Man: Fukushima, Nuclear Power, & Unending Consequences w/ Dr. Helen Caldicott

In this episode, I speak with Dr. Helen Caldicott — the "single most articulate and passionate advocate of citizen action to remedy the nuclear and environmental crises.”✇ We discuss the fallout of the current situation regarding the nuclear meltdown of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant in 2011, the myths and lies that surround nuclear power as a sustainable energy source, the danger posed by having nuclear power plants near coastlines and large bodies of water around the world, the current state of the nuclear power industry, as well as other subjects relating to nuclear power and the dangers it poses for life on Earth.

Nuclear power has been heralded as a safe, clean, and necessary source of energy for the modern developed society, but what are the risks inherent in developing and using nuclear energy, and what examples can we look to that stand in the face of this assertion? Dr. Helen Caldicott discusses the lasting and long-term impacts the development of nuclear energy has had on the health of living beings on this planet since the first nuclear tests in the 1940’s. The most glaring example of the dangers posed by nuclear power comes from Dr. Caldicott’s examination of the meltdown of several nuclear power units at the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant in Ōkuma, Fukushima Prefecture, Japan in March 2011 after a 9.0 magnitude earthquake and tsunami impacted the power plant and caused several facilities to collapse. To this day, highly radiated water enters the Pacific Ocean from this source — the effects of which work its way up the food chain through genetic mutations, impacting the health of every living thing on Earth — including human life. Dr. Caldicott describes the hubris and insanity required to produce such a toxic and everlasting problem on this planet, as well as other subjects relating to the subject of nuclear power, nuclear waste, and the nuclear weapons testing that occurred during the Cold War era.

Dr Helen Caldicott has devoted the last forty-two years to an international campaign to educate the public about the medical hazards of the nuclear age and the necessary changes in human behavior to stop environmental destruction. Born in Melbourne, Australia in 1938, Dr Caldicott received her medical degree from the University of Adelaide Medical School in 1961. She founded the Cystic Fibrosis Clinic at the Adelaide Children’s Hospital in 1975 and subsequently was an instructor in pediatrics at Harvard Medical School and on the staff of the Children’s Hospital Medical Center, Boston, Mass., until 1980 when she resigned to work full time on the prevention of nuclear war.  She has written for numerous publications and has authored several books, including 'Nuclear Madness,' 'The New Nuclear Danger: George Bush’s Military Industrial Complex,' 'Nuclear Power is Not the Answer,' and edited the 2017 book ‘Sleepwalking to Armageddon: The Threat of Nuclear Annihilation.’✇

✇Source: http://bit.ly/CaldicottBio

Episode Notes:

- Learn more about Dr. Caldicott’s years of work at her website: https://www.helencaldicott.com 

- Learn more about Dr. Caldicott’s most recent book ‘Sleepwalking to Armageddon: The Threat of Nuclear Annihilation’: http://bit.ly/CaldicottSA

- Dr. Caldicott founded the US-based Nuclear Policy Research Institute (NPRI), which became Beyond Nuclear: http://www.beyondnuclear.org

- The song featured in this episode is “Loops” by Kneebody & Daedelus from the album Kneedelus.

#151 | Onward, Fellow Humans: Planetary Collapse, Culture Design, & Regenerative Hubs w/ Joe Brewer

In this episode, I speak with Joe Brewer -- complexity researcher, cognitive scientist, and evangelist for the field of culture design. We discuss the social, economic, and ecological collapse we are currently in the midst of as a result of the destructive impacts of human industrial activity and the cultural value systems that uphold these practices. We also discuss Joe's work in designing cultural evolution through "regenerative hubs" -- bioregional centers designed to implement the process of healing and mending humanity's relationship with the living planet and establish a right role within the planet's living systems on the local and global level.

In this discussion, Joe lays out what it means to design culture — “to cultivate the capacities to intentionally guide social change using the best combinations of science, technology, organizational management, and artistic expression.”✧ Joe discusses the growing and well established base of knowledge and practices already in place to facilitate the development of cultural value systems that promote healthy and regenerative systems in human societies and their relationship with the land — whether that be in farming practices and food production, the use and distribution of resources and economic practices, the cultivation of healthy human relationships and collective decision-making practices, and the dissolution of regressive and oppressive institutions and systems of control expressed in the dominant paradigm currently.

As the global economic, social, and ecological systems continue to collapse, what role can we play in developing regenerative practices that can heal the damage wrought in the pursuit of economic growth? Joe understands fully that we have entered into ecological overshoot, and that we very likely are witnessing not only the collapse of our global civilization, but also the end of the human species as a result of abrupt climate change and widespread ecological collapse. I ask Joe to clarify and elaborate on his work in designing regenerative cultural practices in the face of this reality, and what guides him in his work to the present day in spite of this looming predicament we collectively find ourselves in. We discuss this and more in this episode.

Joe Brewer has a background in physics, math, philosophy, atmospheric science, complexity research, and cognitive linguistics. Awakened to the threat of human-induced climate disruption while pursuing a Ph.D. in atmospheric science, he switched fields and began to work with scholars in the behavioral and cognitive sciences with the hope of helping create large-scale behavior change at the level of global civilization.

✧Source: http://bit.ly/JBrewerPatreon

Episode Notes:

- Learn more about Joe’s excellent work at his Patreon page: http://bit.ly/JBrewerPatreon

- Joe’s writings can be found at his Medium page: http://bit.ly/JBrewerMedium

- Support Joe and his family’s move to Costa Rica here: http://bit.ly/JBrewerFund

- The Center for Applied Cultural Evolution: https://culturalevolutioncenter.org

- The Capital Institute: http://capitalinstitute.org

- Follow Joe on Twitter: https://twitter.com/cognitivepolicy

- Follow Joe on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joe.brewer.31

- The songs featured in this episode are “Dawn of a New Day” by Horace Heidt & His Musical Knights and “La Mer” by Django Reinhardt, Stephanie Grappelli & Stéphane Grappelli from the album Bioshock 2.

#150 | Lands Of Lost Borders: Fallen Heroes & Explorations Beyond Limits w/ Kate Harris

In this episode, I speak with Kate Harris, author of the captivating travel memoir ‘Lands of Lost Borders: A Journey on the Silk Road.’ We discuss living off-grid in Atlin, British Columbia, Kate’s complex relationship with Marco Polo and the famed and mythologized explorers from the “Old World,” and her life-expanding decision to traverse the famed Silk Road by bike with her childhood friend.

What does it mean to be an explorer in the modern era? How does one reconcile with the captivating myths told of “Old World” explorers charting uncharted territory with the more cynical truths surrounding their real intentions and actions? In this conversation, Kate elaborates on her journey beautifully presented in her memoir, in which she attempts to reconcile with these questions about exploration, both in the past and present sense, and her yearning to challenge the legitimacy of borders, both in the geographical sense, but also in the metaphorical sense as well. What borders exist within ourselves, preventing us from exploring the limits of our being and living fully? We discuss her journey to travel the Silk Road with these questions in mind.

“Harris set off by bicycle down a short section of the fabled Silk Road with her childhood friend Mel Yule. This trip was just a simulacrum of exploration, she thought, not the thing itself—a little adventure to pass the time until she could launch for outer space. But somewhere in between sneaking illegally across Tibet, studying the history of science and exploration at Oxford, and staring down a microscope for a doctorate at MIT, she realized that an explorer, in any day and age, is by definition the kind of person who refuses to live between the lines. Forget charting maps, naming peaks, leaving footprints on another planet: what she yearned for was the feeling of soaring completely out of bounds. And where she'd felt that most intensely was on a bicycle, on a bygone trading route. So Harris quit the laboratory and hit the Silk Road again with Yule, this time determined to bike it from beginning to end.”✧

Kate Harris is a writer with a grudge against borders and a knack for getting lost. Her essays, travel features, and poetry have appeared in The Walrus, Canadian Geographic, Sierra, CutBank, Arc Poetry Magazine, and The Georgia Review, among other publications, and cited in Best American Essays and Best American Travel Writing. A Rhodes scholar and Morehead-Cain scholar, she was named one of Canada’s top modern-day explorers and in 2012 won the Ellen Meloy Desert Writers Award. Her journeys edging the limits of nations, science, and sanity have taken her to all seven continents, often by ski or bike. She's been profiled in Guernica, The Globe and Mail, VOGUE Germany, and the short film The Art of Wild. When she isn't wandering the world for work and play, she lives off-grid with her wife and dog in a log cabin in Atlin, British Columbia. 'Lands of Lost Borders' is her first book.★

✧Source: http://kateharris.ca/home

★Source: http://kateharris.ca/home/#bio

Episode Notes:

- Learn more about Kate and her memoir ‘Lands of Lost Borders: A Journey on the Silk Road’ at her website: http://kateharris.ca

- Purchase Kate’s book at the publisher’s website: http://bit.ly/LLBorders

- The song featured in this episode is “Kerala” by Bonobo from the album Migration.